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  1. 6 votes
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    Drive More commented  · 

    You can buy Rain Barrels from the city for collecting rain water, instead of letting the water go down the sewer.

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    Drive More commented  · 

    BC Hydro already has a two tier electricity price. You pay more if you consume over the threshold amount.

    Do you even pay for utilities?

  3. 18 votes
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    Drive More commented  · 

    What are you going to do for power when there is no Sun or Wind?
    Solar takes up massive amounts of space for all the solar collectors and wind power turbines kill lots of birds.

  4. 40 votes
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    Drive More commented  · 

    Obviously, the only real way to have a lower footprint is to have less people.
    Fewer people means less consumption, which is really what the governments do not want because that will cause deflation. Companies are flocking to China because the middle class is growing and lots of new consumers but at the expense of the environment.

    Too many geese, ducks, deer, rabbits, wild horses, etc, always gets support for a cull. Why not eat geese, ducks, rabbits ,etc when there are too many instead of killing them needlessly?

    http://ohthestupidity.com/blog/2008/12/want-to-save-the-environment-then-stop-reproducing/

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    Drive More commented  · 

    Well, most people require more than one job to survive in Vancouver. Being green is expensive. If you get subsidized or even free housing and welfare then all is great, no need to work at all.

  5. 67 votes
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    Drive More commented  · 

    That is an option the new Port Mann bridge is being built for, A rapid transit line into the Valley and It will also provides cycling access, paid for by vehicle traffic tolls. .

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    Drive More commented  · 

    It is not the people using the single use packaging, it is what is offered by the store. The stores should offer the option of having the customer bring in their own cups/containers/bags to use and give them a few pennies off the cost or more of the product.

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    Drive More commented  · 

    Ourselves do not grow real organic food from real soil because the work it hard manual labour , low pay and the current immigrants nolonger come to work the land with the high cost of land these days. Best left to the USA with the cheap mexican labour and lower land costs.

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    Drive More commented  · 

    Most modern toilets and urinals have a sensor to detect when a person is present, has done their business and left, then automatically flushes. No need for a bylaw, just a plumbing code.

  10. 8 votes
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    Car sharing is expensive. ZIPCAR and the Car Co-op already exist. For some it is useful for others it is not.

    Most Canadians and immigrants who come to Canada come for freedom and to have a vehicle especially a CAR . A hot Car attracts the hot women. Does anyone take a hot date on the bus?

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    9 comments  ·  GC 2020  ·  Admin →
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    Drive More commented  · 

    The problem with global warming is people do not understand why it is happening, they believe all these doom and gloom theorists trying to extract Billions from the Oil and gas Industry with carbon taxes. Where the REAL problem is the current destruction of the Tropical Rainforests in the Amazon and SE Asia.

    http://www.savetherainforest.org/

    http://www.amazon-rainforest.org/

    http://ohthestupidity.com/blog/2008/12/want-to-save-the-environment-then-stop-reproducing/

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  12. 3 votes
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    Hydrogen is great until it blows you up. Then the lawsuits start flying and Hydrogen will fizzle and die just like the in the past use of Hydrogen for transportation.

  13. 6 votes
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    Drive More commented  · 

    This should only be an option since such products do not sell well anyways.
    Vendors have to make money,. If such organic and natural products were in high demand they would sell themselves without the need for promotion and marketing. The only reason being GREEN can not get going on its own without being forced on people is because it costs too much and is inconvenient.

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    Drive More commented  · 

    All charcoal BBQs should be banned too. They produce lots of smoke and CO2 and other pollutants. Outdoor fire pits should also be banned, If people want to stay warm, put on a jacket or get inside. Why contribute to more global warming .

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    Unaffordable at Any Speed
    electric car subsidies are snobby and foolish.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2262229/pagenum/all

    Annual sales will hit no more than 465,000 by 2020, according to Deloitte—a mere rounding error in a 250-million-car national fleet. This projection is consistent with others by Boston Consulting Group, Resources for the Future, PriceWaterhouseCoopers, and Honda Motor Corp., whose head of research and development recently declared that "we lack confidence" in the electric-vehicle business.

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    Very expensive public chargers are very good for reselling to make some bucks for some people. This is Vancouver, home of the homeless, idiots and litter bugs, lots of homeless need to make a buck from something other than recycling bottles, cans and copper wire. Idiots can come by and unplug the plug.

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    Drive More commented  · 

    More garbage would end up in the recycle bins than in the garbage bin. This is Vancouver, garbage everywhere, dog **** everywhere, cigarette butts everywhere and homeless people everywhere..

    A Prime example was the sea of garbage and litter after the Celebration of Pollution.

  17. 49 votes
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    Drive More commented  · 

    The more modern version is vertical farming.

    For more than a decade, Columbia University professor Dickson Despommier has argued that agriculture needs to expand upwards, not outwards. Forget the noble farmer in his fields; enter the 30-story greenhouse running on solar energy and urban wastewater, churning out food year-round.

    http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/12/is-the-world-re/

    You can buy yours right now and become a poor farmer working long hard back breaking hours for little pay.

    VALCENT PRODUCTS INC. (VERTICROPTM) is a leader in the development and manufacturing of commercial vertical crop technology for global markets. Valcent is a pioneer and leader in eco-technology with its core research and development in sustainable, renewable, and intensive agricultural products.

    http://www.valcent.net/s/Home.asp

    But alot of this would end up growing marijauna.

    Although an alternative would be to house people in chicken coop skyscrapers and save the land for farming.

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    Transit (and transit fares!) are controlled by TransLink, not the city. Having said that, reducing or eliminating transit fares is an interesting idea.

    Unfortunately it’s not very feasible, at least as TransLink is currently funded. Unlike most North American cities, Vancouver’s transit problems aren’t due to a lack of demand but rather a lack of capacity. Anyone who’s ever tried to squeeze onto one of our busy buses or trains knows this all too well — there isn’t enough space even when people have to pay, let alone accommodate the additional demand that would be created if transit were free. Compare this to cities with fare-free zones, which are typically struggling for increase demand, and which typically have (a) less frequent service and/or (b) plenty of extra capacity to accommodate more riders.

    In Vancouver, we need to provide more transit capacity to meet existing demand — and a LOT more…

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    Drive More commented  · 

    If you give everyone free green homes and free green food too there would be no need to spend time traveling downtown to work. Thus freeing up more room for tourists and promoting the city's green public image and ending homelessness and poverty to the world. Actually with no one working, most of the roads can be torn up and more civic gardens can be started more trees planted. Its like back to the past to a time of a more simply life of just growing food, eating and sleeping. Pee can be recycled and poo can be used as manure so no need to build the new sewage treatment plants. Wth so much free time you can walk everywhere so might as well just get rid of transit since they take up so much road space.

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    As long as you pay for the Transit infrastructure , let it be free.

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    Drive More commented  · 

    Better to rollback the odometer since most vehicles no longer have a speedometer cable. There will probably be a good black market for such devices.

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    The problem with that is the amount of damage caused in an accident is not related to the distance you drive. Insurance is what it is.

    If you only drive occasionally you can get insurance for a day or two.

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    Pay as you drive will not work. If it did, ICBC would have already implemented it. The only way to limit driving is to charge a premium to drive based on your previous driving distance. For every 1000 KM driven over a base 12,000KM per year you pay an extra $20 for pleasure and to work/school drivers in the GVRD area only like AirCARE is only in the GVRD area.

    Truckers not included since some drive Millions of KMs.

  20. 15 votes
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    A very long way towards Greenest. Too many littlerbugs especially at the Celebration of Garbage.
    More enforcement officers should be hired to enforce the littering bylaws .

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